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song playlist for live usage

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thijz
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Hi guys,

I've been doing some test with hydro to see if it can be used live (controlled by our drummer).
So far i am able to control hydro using midi drum pads for start/stop and changing the patterns. :-)

The next thing i would like to do is create a sort of 'song playlist' that contains the songs we will play + a simple way of selecting the 'next song' after a song is finished.

I could of course create a script that starts Hydro with a specific song. So when i close Hydro it starts up again with the next song loaded, but this is not very elegant, and disconnects Hydro from Jack every time it is restarted.

any ideas ?

grz
thijz

wolke
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hi,
all versions >= 0.9.4 ( linux and osx ) have a playlist feature.

try tools->playlist editor or similar.

you can manage here playlists.

functions:
add / remove songs from playlists.
save / load playlists.
manage scripts which you can execute if a song from a list will loaded.
this allows you to make some things beside hydrogen. eg. to load a new ams instrument, load special midi maps. i don't know. thinks like this.

key midi bindings:
load next / previous song use the f5 f6 keys.
or create midi commands to load songs from playlist into the he midi preferences tab.

mauser
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Hi!

Hydrogen has a playlist feature since 0.9.4! It works exactly as you describe it :) It's located under the tools menu.

Edit: oh, wolke was faster :)

thijz
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both of you, but Wolke IS faster !
(only 1 min difference !!!)

great stuff guys !

F5/F6 seems to work fine, but if i want to use a Midi trigger to go to the next/previous song in the playlist, what action should i select ?

grtz
thijz

wolke
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ups,
you are right. playlist load prev/next song is not available as midi action.
hmm, i remember that i have use midi to load songs. maybe in an older version or only as a part of some tests.

i think it's no problem to include this feature.

thijz
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Hi Wolke

that would be great !
for now i'm quite happy with the F5/F6, but using a midi trigger would definitely take it to the next level

i've also played a bit with the 'exec script' option in the playlist :
using zenity, i have written a one-liner 'script' that displays a popup for 5sec every time i goto the next/previous song. The popup just shows the name of the song (because the song name is quite small in the hydro gui) so our drummer can clearly see what song is loaded. After 5sec this popup auto-closes so the hydro gui is visible again.
For the test i just made 3 scripts that have the song name hard coded, that also means that i have to select the correct script in the playlist. is there a way to get the name of the currently loaded song ? i could then use that as input for the zenity popup and just use the same script for every song.

i have played around with the gui settings inside hydrogen, but changing the font size did not give me the result i am after, hence the zenity popups. > maybe there are other options ?

grtz
Thijz

wolke
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ah, display song names is a really good idea.
i have create something like a telepointer. called director.
alt+b open the window. you can scale them as you needed.
if have time i will add something like this.
load a song from playlist will point the song name in big letters for some seconds.
the telepointer himself give you visual informations about tempo (visual metronome), bars, beats, tags you can edit into the tag editor. a right click on song position ruler, the row with the black triangle pointer above the song editor, open this editor.

into the telepointer the tags will displayed in two rows. first row giv you information about the current tag. the second row inform about the next tag. so you now what happens at the moment and what will happens to the next tag.

EDIT:
middle mouse button open the tag editor. not right clicking.

thijz
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in what version is this 'telepointer/director' available ? (not in the 9.4 as far as i can see ?)

mauser
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Hi!

No, it was introduced in 0.9.5.

thijz
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just did some quick tests on a 9.5 build (the 'tabbed' netbook version by mauser)
> GREAT STUFF !!!
i love it !!!

i'll post back later on after some more testing
me happy :-)

edit :
did some more tests and everything works great !
by creating a telepointer (this is a very cool word ;-) that contains the song name, I can already display the name in the director window in a large font size.
of course this means that the song has to be playing before the text of the pointer is actually shown in the director window > not ideal.
Like you wrote before, displaying the song name for a couple of seconds would be veeeery nice indeed
tip : it would be nice to be able to choose the font size (a 'small/medium/large' choice would do)
tip2 : i like the 'visual' metronome, but it might also be a good idea to have a large square next to the bar counter that flashes every time a beat passes

grtz
thijz

wolke
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hi,
trunk since rev 1603 displays the song names into the director after loading a song.

also telepointer tags displayed correctly after loading a song from playlist (f5 f6).

thijz
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hi wolke

i just build the 'trunk' version (rev 1628) :
- display song names : check
- correct tags loading : check
- me happy : check ;-)

grtz
Thijz

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