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Hydrogen and LV2

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GMaq
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Hi,

I'm wondering if there are future plans to have the ability to add LV2 plugins on the Mixer channel strips in Hydrogen. I know the LADSPA functionality is there but since the bulk of Plugin development has moved to LV2 and LinuxVST with nice GUI's it would be a great feature to add your favourite Plugins to different Kit pieces before exporting or recording into a secondary DAW.

Some would say just export each kit piece to a separate track in the DAW (which does make a lot of sense) or route the tracks separately to a plugin host but IMHO this is kludgy, time consuming and potentially confusing especially for new users. I think being able to simply grab a Plugin right on the Mixer Strip like you do in Ardour or Qtractor would put Hydrogen in it's own universe. The programming, patterning and sampling are already world class but better DSP within Hydrogen would really knock it out of the park.

Just an opinion from a frequent user on Linux. Sincere thanks to all the developers for the best Drum Sequencer bar none!!

 

mauser
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Hi GMaq!

I would love to see LV2 support as well (and, to honest, even AU and VST). The current plugin support in hydrogen really sucks. Wolke and I have this on our todo-list since ages, but until now other things were more important. I guess i spent in this year more then 90% of my hydrogen time only for bugfixes and to make things work which were only half-finished before. And if i look at our bugtracker, this won't change for the next 4-5 months. So yes, LV2 support is a fine idea and a rework of our plugin system is more then necessary, but at the moment i can't see any possibility that it could be done in the near future. But maybe someone reads this post who is able to implement it and contributes it. I don't give up hope :) 

GMaq
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Hi mauser,

Thanks for the quick and informative reply, I'm very glad to hear that it is at least on the todo list. In the meantime I'll buy you guys a case of beer for the Christmas season and look forward to future developments!

thyraios
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Joined: 01/20/2013

Subscribing to this functionality request. It would be great to be able to use LV2 plugins in Hydrogen!

Smeefer
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Joined: 02/24/2013

Haha! I was just working on a perc track (as always, in Hydrogen) and feeling bummed out about the reverb plugins' capability (or lack of) in Hydrogen, I came to the forum to write a post asking about the possibility of updating Hydrogen with better plugin support for LV2s. Luckily enough, GMaq is one step ahead of me!

I'd be super duper thrilled about Hydrogen having LV2 capability and/or generally better plugin functionality. When I use the same plugins in Hydrogen and Ardour, they always sound terrible in Hydrogen and great in Ardour. For instance, use Invada ER Reverb on a snare in Hydrogen. Then load the snare into a track on Ardour and use it again with the same parameters. The plugin sounds different and I don't know why.

I promise one thing. Once the plugin capabilities are updated and strengthened in a future version of Hydrogen, you will hear it in my music. Alongside Ardour, Zynaddsubfx/Yoshimi, JAMin and LV2s, Hydrogen is my precious and most-used software. I can't wait for there to be potential LV2 updates in Hydrogen. Mauser said the next "4-5 months." I'm writing this in my calendar, May 2013.

Smeefer
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I'm still thinking about Hydrogen with LV2 suppport (or at least just better LADSPA plugin support). Is a Hydrogen update being worked on?

Newkular
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Joined: 01/01/2014

@Smeefer:

So, I know this is a PITA, but the way I get the reverb I am looking for with Hydrogen is to route the audio back to an Ardour bus and apply effects there. Usually, I just use the IR plugin and a good drum chamber impulse on the whole kit, but, if you're feeling more adventurous, you can output each individual instrument's audio from your Hydrogen kit to its own Ardour bus, then apply LV2 effects to each instrument separately. I sometimes do the latter at mixing time (at least isolate some of the instruments -- the kick and snare, for example -- and dump the rest to a separate stereo bus.)

To make quick work out of all the patching, use Ardour templates.

Hopefully, I am making sense. If not, just say so and I'll try to clarify. Cheers!

An aside: it's fairly common to record the drums (and all the MIDI instruments for that matter) to Ardour audio tracks just before mixing. (At least it's common for me!) This just keeps things simple in terms of patching all the MIDI stuff around when you're really trying to focus on the mix. You still have your MIDI files at hand, so if you choose to change something during or after mixing, you can still do so (and re-record it to the Ardour audio track.)

 

akku (not verified)

I also wanted a different feel from he reverb and Flanger that are we getting from the hydrogen. The real sound of analog amp is not getting correctly I guess. Really thank you for discussing this here. Please keep on discussing.